Limiter Before or After Tape Sim?

Been trying to think through a standard fx chain per each track and 2buss for a collection of songs. I understand it's pretty much whatever sounds good to you individually. But, I wanted to hear how some of you using tape sims on your master buss place your limiter, and why. Thanks. Kyle

The limiter should always be last in the chain if you are using it to keep digital peaks at -.0# below zero dbfs. If that is not your goal then maybe it dosen't matter but you would still have to watch out for digital overs on the master bus. hth's Cheers

...unless the limiter is to catch wayward peaks that would over-saturate your tape sim... ;) Depends what you're trying to do with it really. >

I was refering to the master bus specifically, meaning if you placed the tape sim after your "Brickwall" limiter on the master buss it could very well cause digital overs. Maybe i was a little unclear about that as it was the last line of my post. Sorry if i've caused any confusion :) Cheers

The implication in the original post is that there is only going to be one limiter in this use. Which is why Wolffman's response makes sense.

My thinking was to setup as though I was going to tape. But, as Wolffman said, with only one limiter in the chain I might have an overage problem to spike up. My main concern was protecting my monitors. But, I should be able to auto-mute if I exceed a preset level. That should be all the protection I'd need, shouldn't it? Kyle